Crime + investigation

Serial Killer Ed Gein Was a 'Model Patient' After Being Incarcerated for His Gruesome Crimes

A&E Crime + Investigation spoke with clinical associate professor of psychiatry Dr. Gail Saltz about why the serial killer was so well-behaved after he was locked up.

The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images
Published: January 11, 2018Last Updated: July 16, 2026

When police raided suspected murderer Ed Gein’s house in Plainfield, Wis., in November 1957, they found a chair upholstered in human skin, a skull used as a soup bowl, a belt decorated with carved-off nipples and a table propped up by human shinbones, among other gruesome items. The ghoulish “memorabilia” was discovered to be from at least two murdered women and dozens of exhumed bodies, which Gein obtained during up to 40 nocturnal visits to local graveyards.

After being diagnosed with schizophrenia and pronounced insane, Gein—whose mother Augusta was domineering and told him that women and sex were evil—was committed to a mental hospital. But after 10 years, he was declared fit to stand trial, which he did in November 1968. He was found "not guilty by reason of insanity" and sentenced to life imprisonment in psychiatric institutions.

While at the Mendota Mental Health Institute in Wisconsin, where he would spend the rest of his life, Gein had most of the medical staff praise his amiable disposition and cooperative nature And surprisingly for such a gruesome killer, he had an unblemished incarceration record.

A&E Crime + Investigation spoke with Dr. Gail Saltz, clinical associate professor of psychiatry at the New York Presbyterian Hospital Weill-Cornell School of Medicine and author of Anatomy of a Secret Life: The Psychology of Living a Lie about Gein's unusual behavior as a  “model patient” after he was incarcerated for his crimes.

True Crime: Ed Gein

Naomi Ekperigin talks about serial killer Ed Gein - the inspiration for Norman Bates - from his relationship with his mother to his murders.

4:59m watch

According to Harold Schechter, who wrote Deviant, a biography on Gein, the murderer was a perfect patient: blissful, calm, never requiring tranquilizers to keep under control—and he got along really well with other patients. Why do you think he felt "at home" while in confinement?

Somebody who was a child in an authoritarian home may feel familiarity or even compelled to repeat what was essentially a trauma for them.

Living under very stringent rules, without freedoms, and being told what to think and do is very difficult for children. [Some] assimilate to the conditions—even though they may be angry [about] them—and experience it as an ongoing chronic trauma. They then replay that childhood trauma as adults and reparticipate in the conditions as a way of managing and processing the trauma. Essentially, they are drawn to it.

In Gein's mind, had Augusta been replaced by his incarcerators?

His incarcerators were the people that kept him under control. In being authoritarian, they may—you wouldn’t know for sure without talking to him—have been reminiscent of his mother.

It's been reported the only thing that troubled medical staff about Gein was the disconcerting way he stared at nurses and other female staff. How did he feel at the sight of women?

It is hard to tell whether he was consumed by fantasy or obsessional thoughts or whether he eroticized their bodies. We also don’t know whether he suffered from depersonalization—a highly aroused and traumatized state where you are almost outside yourself, observing—which [sometimes happens to] people who have been abused. "A person who looks like nobody is home," is how people describe depersonalization. Or maybe it was rage, or a combination of rage and eroticism—the possibilities are many.

Doctors diagnosed Gein as schizophrenic. Based on your knowledge of Gein's life, do you agree with their diagnosis?

Obviously we all look at what he did and say [he] must have been sick to do what he did, but that’s not necessarily true. Psychodynamically, these murders were driven by his relationship with his mother, and by going after figures like her and destroying them, he would attempt to subsume them by taking their parts and making them part of him.

Still, from a mental health perspective, we don’t know if his crimes had to do with the lack of a moral compass or a pleasure in making others suffer. That’s all psychopathy (which is different from schizophrenia), where you would expect psychosis, specific delusions and hallucinations that make it impossible for someone to understand right from wrong, and, over time, a cognitive decline.

Nothing I've read about Gein suggests schizophrenia. That’s not to say he couldn't have been schizophrenic.

Had Augusta lived a longer life and remained by Gein's side during his lifetime, might it be possible he never would have killed?

It's hard to know the internal pressures building up before her death. It’s very possible that he had those thoughts long before her death, like most killers and sexual predators do long before their first crime.

Invisible Monsters: Serial Killers in America

Weaves together the stories of five infamous serial killers.

Related Features:

Did Ted Bundy Carry Out the 1969 Garden State Parkway Murders?

Teen Susan Davis and Elizabeth Perry were killed outside Ocean City, N.J.

7m read

Monica White Dated 'Shopping Cart Killer' Anthony Robinson, Suspected of Killing 6 Women

Lifetime's 'The Dating App Killer' is based on her experience.

6m read

Who Was Robert Eugene Brashers, the Man Behind the Yogurt Shop Murders?

The murders remained unsolved until DNA revealed a serial killer.

7m read

Who Was the Atlanta Ripper?

An unidentified serial killer preyed on Black women during the 1910s.

5m read

Who Is Joel Rifkin? The Serial Killer Admitted to 17 Murders

He committed some of the killings in his mom's house on Long Island, N.Y.

7m read

Why Police Believe Serial Killer Billy Mansfield Had More Victims

Authorities looked for more remains in Florida in June 2026.

5m read

How Was Jeffrey Dahmer Caught?

Police arrested the serial killer on July 22, 1991.

6m read

Who Was the 'Sacramento Slayer'? All About Morris Solomon Jr.

The serial killer took his first known victim on June 18, 1986.

9m read

Before Dumping Victims at Gilgo Beach, Rex Heuermann Tortured Them in His Long Island Home

The "Long Island Serial Killer" pleaded guilty to seven murders.

6m read

How Rex Heuermann Was Arrested in Connection to the Gilgo Beach Murders

The man allegedly behind seven homicides was caught in 2023.

6m read

Why Would a Dad Kill 5 of His Infant Children?

Paul Allen Perez murdered and abused the newborns between 1992 and 2001.

6m read

Where Is Gary Ridgway Now? Inside the Green River Killer's Life in Prison

He has lived in isolation at Washington State Penitentiary since 2004.

7m read

Why Juan Corona Is One of America's Most Overlooked Serial Killers

He murdered 25 migrant workers between February and May 1971.

5m read

The Search for the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murderer Continues More Than 5 Decades Later

Seven girls and young women were murdered in California in the 1970s.

5m read

Was Herb Baumeister a Serial Killer Responsible for Murdering 25 Men in Indiana?

He died by suicide in July 1996 after police issued a warrant for his arrest.

7m read

Did Richard Speck, the ‘Birdman’ Who Murdered 8 Nursing Students, Have a Connection to Ed Gein?

Speck killed eight nursing students on one Chicago night in 1966.

6m read

Why ‘Fast Food Killer’ Paul Dennis Reid Stopped Fighting Death Sentence

Reid went on a murder spree in Tennessee over three months in 1997.

6m read

How Billy Chemirmir Exploited Senior Living Communities and Killed 22 People

His crimes led to the formation of an advocacy group.

7m read

The Wedding Venue Employee Who Turned Out to Be a Serial Killer

Edward Wayne Edwards killed his foster child and two couples.

7m read

He Looked Like a Caring Nurse’s Aide—But Donald Harvey Was a Prolific Serial Killer

The "Angel of Death" was convicted of murdering 34 patients.

6m read

How Racial Disparities May Have Impacted the 'Freeway Phantom' Case

Six Black girls were killed in the D.C. area during the early 1970s.

6m read

Was Aileen Wuornos’s Girlfriend Tyria Moore the Reason Why She Killed?

Moore was the one person Wuornos couldn’t bear to lose.

5m read

How Familial DNA Helped Solve the Murder of a Teen Girl and Identify a Serial Killer

"Jupiter Joe" Martinez killed 13-year-old Minerliz Soriano in 1999.

6m read

Inside BTK Killer Dennis Rader's Life in Prison

Rader has been serving 10 consecutive life terms since 2005.

4m read

What Is 'Yosemite Killer' Cary Stayner's Life Like Today?

In 1999, Cary Stayner, murdered four women at Yosemite National Park.

5m read

What Happened to Ted Bundy's Daughter, Rosa?

Rosa Bundy is a private figure connected to a notorious killer.

6m read

Why ‘Monster of the Andes’ Pedro Alonso López Only Served 14 Years for 110 Murders

He claimed to have murdered more than 300 young girls between 1978 and 1980.

7m read

What Did Some of America's Most Notorious Criminals Have as a 'Last Meal'?

The last meals of infamous inmates have varied widely.

6m read

Where Is the Golden State Killer Now? Joseph DeAngelo’s Life in Prison

DeAngelo is housed in a unit with lots of isolation.

4m read

What Was Ted Bundy's Execution Like?

All the details of the serial killer's January 1989 execution.

6m read

Ted Bundy's Childhood: From Lonely Boy to Window Peeper to Serial Killer

How the serial killer's youth led to adult crimes.

6m read

What It Was Like Growing Up With Ted Bundy

Edna Cowell Martin reflects on her bond with her serial killer cousin.

7m read

Charles Manson's Children: How Many Did He Have, and Where Are They Now?

Manson’s sons grew up largely disconnected from their father.

5m read

Did Leaded Gasoline Play a Role in Gary Ridgway and Richard Ramirez's Killings?

Growing evidence highlights lead's connection to violent crimes.

5m read

Was Lavinia Fisher America's First Female Serial Killer?

She was executed in February 1820 in front of onlookers.

6m read

What Did Lucy Letby Do? All About the British Nurse's Crimes and Motive

Prosecutors alleged the caretaker got a “thrill” out of killing.

7m read

From Ray and Faye Copeland to Fred and Rosemary West, These Couples Were Truly Partners in Crime

Love turned deadly for the Copelands, the Wests and more.

12m read

Are the Zodiac Killer and the Black Dahlia's Killer the Same Person?

A self-taught codebreaker believes he’s solved two of the most vexing cold cases of the 20th century.

8m read

The ‘Torso Killer’ Was Convicted of 5 Murders. He’s Now Confessed to More Than 20

Richard Cottingham’s latest one closed a 60-year-old cold case.

6m read

A Serial Killer Known As 'The Doodler' Is Likely Still At Large

Victims are still waiting for the Bay Area killer to be apprehended.

6m read

Is Lead to Blame for the Surge of Serial Killers in the 1970s and ‘80s?

Serial killers Ted Bundy and Gary Ridgway were exposed to lead as kids.

7m read

Who Is 'TiKTok Killer' José Jurado Montilla?

Esther Estepa was pictured with Spanish content creator before she vanished.

4m read

How Serial Killer Andrew Cunanan Evaded Capture Before Murdering Gianni Versace

Cunanan fatally shot the fashion designer on July 15, 1997.

6m read

The Real Killers Who Inspired Hollywood’s Darkest Characters, Like Patrick Bateman and Buffalo Bill

'American Psycho,' 'The Cell' and more draw on actual murders.

8m read

How DNA Solved the Yogurt Shop Murders

Why it took decades to implicate Robert Eugene Brashers.

5m read

How the 1970s Gave Rise to the American ‘Serial Killer’ Trope

John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy helped inspire the term.

7m read

Heather Robinson Was Abducted by Her Uncle Who Killed Her Mom

John Edward Robinson sold her as an infant to his brother.

7m read

Richard Ramirez, Dennis Rader and Other Serial Killers Caught in Unexpected Ways

Some unlikely clues took down the most careful murderers.

7m read

Did 'Son of Sam' David Berkowitz Blame a Dog for His Crimes?

The killer is infamous for the explanation behind his attacks.

5m read

Does Aileen Wuornos Haunt the Florida Bar Where She Was Arrested 35 Years Ago?

Police took the serial killer into custody at The Last Resort.

6m read

Officials Have Identified a Serial Killer in Massachusetts

Prosecutors believe Kevin Lino murdered two unhoused men.

5m read

Aileen Wuornos: Did America's First Female Serial Killer Act in Self-Defense?

Wuornos sold sex to survive—ultimately killing seven men.

8m read

4 Female Serial Killers Who Will Haunt Your Dreams

Meet four female murders whose stories you won't forget.

5m read

Albert Fish Abducted Children, Ate Their Remains and Then Confessed in Letters to His Victims' Parents

He was caught after the 1928 murder of 10-year-old Grace Budd.

6m read

The Golden State Killer and Other Serial Killers Who Mysteriously Stopped Murdering

The Golden State Killer and the Zodiac Killer top the list.

6m read

Why There Are Fewer Female Serial Killers Than Male Killers in the U.S.

Female killers' motives also tend to differ from those of males.

7m read

The Golden State Killer Prosecutor Doesn't Think Joseph DeAngelo Stopped Killing in 1986

Thien Ho sentenced Joseph DeAngelo decades after his first kill.

6m read

Aileen Wuornos: Movies, Books and Podcast Episodes About America's First Female Serial Killer

What to watch, read and listen to for more on the female killer.

6m read

The Surprising Way in Which 'Taxi Driver' Influenced 'Son of Sam' David Berkowitz

The killer drew inspiration from the Martin Scorsese movie.

6m read

What Happened to Béla Kiss, Hungary’s Forgotten Serial Killer?

Investigators found bodies of women he killed in barrels in 1916.

6m read

The Real Killers Who Inspired 'The Silence of the Lambs'

Buffalo Bill is based on a combination of actual murderers.

5m read

The ‘Son of Sam’ Law Was Put into Place to Stop David Berkowitz From Profiting Off His Crimes

States aimed to balance free speech with victim compensation.

7m read

Was a Bad Childhood to Blame for 'Night Stalker' Richard Ramirez Becoming a Serial Killer?

A&E talks with Dr. Scott Bonn, criminologist and author of the book, 'Why We Love Serial Killers' about what he thinks were the powerful catalysts for the makings of a serial killer.

5m read

Richard Ramirez and Other Serial Killers Whose Family Members Were Murdered

Some of the most infamous criminals in history experienced murders first-hand before they starting doing the killing themselves.

5m read

Richard Ramirez's Death: What Were the Final Days of the 'Night Stalker' Like?

He was sentenced to death in 1989 for 13 murders, but escaped execution when he died of natural causes in 2013.

5m read

Ed Gein: The Skin-Suit-Wearing Serial Killer Who Inspired Psycho's Norman Bates

Nicknamed "The Butcher of Plainfield," Gein enjoyed robbing graves and amassed a collection of body parts that he put on display at home.

4m read

5 Horror Villains Inspired By Ed Gein, the Butcher of Plainfield

The Wisconsin killer influenced numerous fictional characters.

7m read

Was Ed Gein Engaged to Adeline Watkins—and What Did She Know About His Crimes?

The Wisconsin woman once claimed the killer proposed to her.

5m read

Why Did 'BTK Killer' Dennis Rader Keep Photographic Evidence of His Crimes?

The serial killer murdered 10 people between 1974 and 1991.

6m read

'BTK Killer' Dennis Rader Blamed 'Factor X' for His Urge to Kill—What Is It?

Identifying what Rader says drove him to kill at least 10 people.

7m read

Did Ed Gein Date Bernice Worden Before Killing Her?

The hardware store owner's murder led to Gein's arrest in 1957.

4m read

Did Ed Gein Help With the Ted Bundy Investigation?

A new wave of storytelling suggests a crossover between the two.

4m read

Ed Gein's Childhood: 'The Butcher of Plainfield' Fixated on His Domineering Mother

Gein's upbringing might have influenced his gruesome behavior.

6m read

Jerry Brudos, the 'Shoe Fetish Slayer,' Stole His Female Victims' Footwear After Killing Them

Brudos was known as the 'Lust Killer' for his Oregon murders.

5m read

John Wayne Gacy's Childhood: 'Killer Clown' Serial Killer Was Victim of Abuse

He murdered 33 male victims, some as young as 15 years old.

6m read

The Hunt to Find John Wayne Gacy's Unidentified Victims

Police are working to ID five of the serial killer's 33 victims.

7m read

John Wayne Gacy's Victims: Gone, But Not Forgotten

Victims of the "Killer Clown" shared some surprising connections.

8m read

Did Ed Gein Kill His Brother? All About Henry Gein’s Suspicious Death

The Butcher of Plainfield's sibling died in a fire in 1944.

5m read

John Wayne Gacy’s Capture Happened Because of a Missing Teen Case

The "Killer Clown" murdered 33 young men and boys in the 1970s.

5m read

How John Wayne Gacy Influenced a Cultural Fear of Clowns

The "Killer Clown" killed at least 33 young men and boys.

6m read

Living with Evil: The Women Who Married John Wayne Gacy

Gacy's outward charm fooled friends and family alike.

6m read

What Was John Wayne Gacy's Murder Trial Like?

Gacy's mental state at the time of his crimes was questioned.

6m read

John Wayne Gacy's Execution: What Were the Serial Killer's Final Days Like?

The "Killer Clown" died via lethal injection in 1994.

6m read

Ed Gein: Movies, Shows, Books and Podcast Episodes About the Butcher of Plainfield

What to watch, read and listen to for more of his ghastly crimes.

7m read

John Wayne Gacy: Movies, Shows, Books and Podcast Episodes About the 'Killer Clown'

What to watch, read and listen to for more of the "Killer Clown."

5m read

How Serial Killer Danny Rolling Influenced 'Scream' with His 1990 Slayings

The "Gainesville Ripper" killed five collegians in three days.

6m read

John Wayne Gacy’s Confession: How the Truth Finally Emerged

The "Killer Clown" revealed the crimes he’d hidden for years.

6m read

Why Do Some Serial Killers Stop Killing? It Might Be Hormonal

Could a decline in testosterone really put a halt to a killer's murderous spree?

5m read

David Berkowitz Confessed to Being the 'Son of Sam.' But Did He Really Act Alone?

During the 1970s, David Berkowitz, also known as 'The Son of Sam,' prowled New York City, fatally shooting couples in cars. By the time he was arrested in August 1977, he had killed six people and wounded seven others. Although the murders stopped after his arrest, several people who worked on the Son of Sam case are convinced Berkowitz didn't act alone.

5m read

The Shocking Reason Serial Killer David Berkowitz Targeted Women

Watch a video on the life of the infamous serial killer, Son of Sam.

1m read

'Son of Sam' David Berkowitz's Life in Prison and Chances for Parole

New York's infamous serial killer, who murdered six people in the 1970s and is up for parole in 2024, is at Shawangunk Correctional Facility. But will he be released?

6m read

About the author

Stav Dimitropoulos

Stav Dimitropoulos is an international journalist and columnist who has written for A&E Real Crime, BBC, Discover, Playboy, Runner's World, Womankind, VICE, Science, Nieman Journalism Lab and others, and has reported for CBC, CBS Radio and Fox TV.

More by Author

Fact Check

We strive for accuracy and fairness. But if you see something that doesn't look right, click here to contact us! A&E reviews and updates its content regularly to ensure it is complete and accurate.

Citation Information

Article Title
Serial Killer Ed Gein Was a 'Model Patient' After Being Incarcerated for His Gruesome Crimes
Website Name
A&E
Date Accessed
August 12, 2026
Publisher
A&E Television Networks
Last Updated
July 16, 2026
Original Published Date
January 11, 2018
Advertisement
Advertisement
Advertisement