I talked to the officers who were there, but then I went back outside to talk to the neighbors. I think I may have gotten some of the only genuine interviews because, in that moment, they didn't know what a big deal this case was going to be—that this was something they're going to be talking about [decades] later.
A few of the people knew him as Jeff, and a lot of people described him to me as 'that weird white dude.' They had an impression that he was just strange, didn't engage with others. One of the reasons Dahmer likely chose that building is that it's a place where you keep to yourself, and nobody's going to bother you.
People were huddled together. I was still on the scene when the blue barrel came out. (The 57-gallon barrel contained body parts and corrosive chemicals.) That's the video you see anytime there's a documentary or story about Dahmer.
What was it like following the story?
I devoted myself to learning everything about him. People gave me documents I wasn't supposed to have. I saw photographs of (the horrors) in the apartment. I chased down anybody who might have had a story [about Dahmer]. I went to the gay bars to talk to bartenders. I interviewed his prom date.
All the bartenders remembered Dahmer because he was a regular. They said he was a nice guy, who was nice looking and put himself together well. His prom date told me that he didn't seem like he really wanted to go, and that he was drunk. This poor girl didn't go home and think she had been on a date with a killer.
Most people didn't have anything incriminating to say. I will read or see these interviews, and there were people who worked with him at Ambrosia Chocolate who will say he was secretive about his locker. No, he [actually] had a skull in his locker at work. But there's a reason he didn't get caught [sooner]—he [wasn't] very obvious about what he was doing.
Did you ever meet Dahmer?
Yes, his attorney Gerry Boyle introduced him to me when we were in the judge's chambers, but Dahmer also reached out to me after the book was published. He was upset—and because your life isn't weird enough until a serial killer is upset with you—that I had spent a great deal of time talking about what the psychiatrist said about why he had done the things he did. He told me he didn't want any kind of excuse—that nobody was responsible for his murders except for him.
Why do you think he reached out to you?
When I did interviews, people would ask me: Did you meet him? And he knew I'd say yes, and then I would share that he did not appreciate any kind of blame put on his parents. He was smart. He was a manipulator.
He was charming, but he was very soft spoken. You wouldn't have remembered him if you met him. He wasn't drop-dead gorgeous, and he wasn't the scariest guy in the world. He was absolutely vanilla.
You also covered his death, on November 28, 1994, in the Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wisconsin, at the hands of fellow inmate and convicted murderer, Christopher Scarver.
I am not a big conspiracy theorist. But the most high-risk prisoner in the entire prison was cleaning a bathroom with the second most high-risk prisoner, Jesse Anderson (who murdered his wife and staged the murder, blaming an unknown Black man) [along] with Christopher Scarver, who was mentally unstable. That those three would have been able to be together [in the first place] and long enough for Scarver to beat them both to death with a barbell, and no guards saw anything…
This part of the whole story is the most murky. How did this happen in a maximum-security prison, and nobody saw anything? I still have the names of all the guards who were working at the time, and I'm always watching the death notices to see if there will be a deathbed confession by somebody who had been there. But so far, there's nothing like that.